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Author Topic:  Hmm strange  (Read 823 times)

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Joe

« on: 13, August 2019, 04:52:03 »
This is not that important, but figured I would post about it anyways.  Did you know if you are logged into main and uninstalled the game the client would stay open.  Then when downloading and installing new client (with old client still open)  you get these errors but the game still installs.  I ignored the errors to continue testing this odd occurrence.  Most players would never try this but I did it accidentally.

No big deal just wanted to show.

_people_

« Reply #1 on: 14, August 2019, 03:48:59 »
There's probably a way to make sure the client isn't running prior to uninstalling the client. I think it's unable to delete those files because Windows has a lock on them when you run the client. I'll look into it for the next client build.

What's more concerning to me is this Windows SmartScreen crap. I wonder if it's deterring people from playing the game. I've looked into getting the installer and client signed but it seems pretty difficult. Something I'm still in the process of researching.
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Joe

« Reply #2 on: 14, August 2019, 04:17:31 »
No the smart screen only showed up along with the errors when I had the client open while installing a fresh copy.

_people_

« Reply #3 on: 14, August 2019, 06:48:26 »
I get the Smart Screen message any time I install a fresh copy of the client to test a new installer package. And I think it's highly likely that most people see the message when installling the game for the first time.
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Joe

« Reply #4 on: 23, September 2019, 00:46:18 »
According to Smartscreen Wikipedia:

SmartScreen Filter creates a problem for small software vendors when they distribute an updated version of installation or binary files over the internet. Whenever an updated version is released, SmartScreen responds by stating that the file is not commonly downloaded and can therefore install harmful files on your system. This can be fixed by the author digitally signing the distributed software. Reputation is then based not only on a file's hash but on the signing certificate as well. A common distribution method for authors to bypass SmartScreen warnings is to pack their installation program (for example Setup.exe) into a ZIP-archive and distribute it that way, though this can confuse non-expert users.

Another criticism is that SmartScreen makes non-commercial/small end software development unaffordable. Developers either have to purchase standard code signing certificates or more expensive extended validation certificates. Extended validation certificates allow the developer to immediately establish reputation with SmartScreen but are often unaffordable for people developing software either for free or not for immediate profit. The standard code signing certicates however pose a "catch-22" for developers, since SmartScreen warnings make people reluctant to download software, as a consequence to get downloads requires first passing Smartscreen, passing SmartScreen requires getting reputation and getting reputation is dependent on downloads.

_people_

« Reply #5 on: 23, September 2019, 00:57:14 »
Thanks for the article, Joe. In all my research on the subject I didn't think to check Wikipedia, which is apparently the best explanation!

Looking at the pricing on some Extended Validation certificates... $700 per year. I think I'll pass on that one for now :)
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